The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-389 – DirtDawg and JustFinish Crewing a 100 miler

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Hello and welcome to the RunRunLive Podcast episode 4-389.  This is your friend Chris.  I feel like I need to introduce myself and what we do here in case there might be a new listener or two.  That’s a challenge, for a couple reasons.  First, because we’ve been at this for over a decade.  Over the arc of that decade you an I have been through many seasons of both our lives and our endurance adventures. 

I certainly will share with you what adventures I’m pursuing in this season of the brief ride we call life, but it is going to be different from what we were talking about 3 years ago and will be different again, god willing, in 3 years.  Spoiler alert, my current season is one of training for a 100 mile race and today’s episode will topically reflect that. 

Today we talk to two guys I met and got to know through the seasons. Mike and Kevin, whose respective ‘noms de enduro-guerre’ are DirtDawg and JustFinish.  (How weirdly cool is it that we get to give ourselves handles?)  I’m talking to them because they have agreed to pace and crew me for my race in 4 weeks. 

I’m also going to give you a longish review of my last training week which culminated in 93+ miles and a 50 mile long run. 

Since the interview is long and my training update is long, you’re just getting the one article this week.   

And – remember up in paragraph one where I said there were two reasons it’ shard to describe who we are here at RunRunLive and what we do?  First, was it depends on what season we’re in.  Second, is because you’re going to get what floats through my brain any particular week.

We have different themes but it always circles around the power of endurance sports to teach us, to change us and to give us perspective.  That perspective is transformative in itself, and humbling.  You and I, DirtDawg and JustFinish, we are all crushed by the gravity of change together in a community of endurance.

So here we are episode 389.  389 is another good year for classical reference.  In 389 BC The Athenian general, Thrasybulus, led a force of triremes to levy tribute from cities around the Aegean and support Rhodes, where a democratic government was struggling against Sparta.

What’s interesting about this is that on this campaign, Thrasybulus captured Byzantium, so that he could impose a duty on ships passing through the Hellespont.  The Hellespont is the narrow opening that connects the Agean Sea to the Black Sea.  Many scientist believe this opening was caused by the ocean catastrophically blasting through this sliver of land as the sea rose after the last ice age and is the historical and cultural source of the great flood myths, like Noah. 

Anyhow, Byzantium was a town founded by the Greeks 300 years earlier.  It passed back and forth with the Persians and Greeks and Romans.  In 330 AD Constantine moved the seat of the Roman Empire there and founded what would become Constantinople. 

Constantinople held out until 1543, when the Ottoman Turks finally took it over and now it is Istanbul, the heart of Turkey.  See, 389, another suitable number. 

My training is going well.  I’ve got one more big week of miles then I’ll taper into the race at the end of the month.  Nothing is broken, so we’ll see.  It’s all good.

Over the last few weeks you probably saw a plague of emails from social media sites and others, many of whom you probably don’t remember signing up for.  This is because of the recently enacted GDPR, or General Data Protection Regulation enacted by the European Union.  It’s basically the rules around what you can and can’t do with people’s data and what you have to tell them when you’re doing it.

So, in the spirit of the GDPR I’m going to let you know what I’ve been doing with your data.

When we first met, your data and I, your data was very shy and didn’t interact much.  But, over time, as we got to know each other, and spend time together, your data and I have formed a bond of mutual respect and affection.

There have been many warm summer evenings where your data and I have taken long walks on the beach and shared stories around an open campfire in the twinkling starshine.  Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always been a perfect gentleman with your data!  (well there was that one night where we had too much sangria at the Cinco de Mayo party, but, let me not tell tales about the chance encounters of consenting architectures)

Mostly we just cuddle.

So, yeah, your data is safe with me.

On with the show!

I’ll remind you that the RunRunLive podcast is ad free and listener supported.  What does that mean? It means you don’t have to listen to me trying to sound sincere about Stamps.com or Audible.. (although, fyi, my MarathonBQ book is on audible) We do have a membership option where you can become a member and as a special thank you, you will get access to member’s only audio. There are book reviews, odd philosophical thoughts, zombie stories and I curate old episodes for you to listen to.  I recently added that guy who cut off is foot so he could keep training and my first call with Geoff Galloway.   “Curated” means I add some introductory comments and edit them up a bit.  So anyhow – become a member so I can keep paying my bills.

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  • Member only race reports, essays and other bits just for you!

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Section one – Ultra Training Update - http://runrunlive.com/ultra-training-and-the-penultimate-big-week

Voices of reason – the conversation

Mike Croy (DirtDawg) and Kevin Green (JustFinish)

Kevin is currently training for the Marquette 50. He finished Burning River in 2010 and the Grand Slam of Ultrarunning in 2011. Kevin is a project manager in the automation industry, is married to Stacy and has two very active daughters, Nora and Leah. He plans to relaunch http://www.JustFinish.com this fall.

Mike “Dirt Dawg” Croy is a father, husband, runner, yoga teacher working with veterans, homeless shelters and educators, and serves as a high school principal working with at risk high school students. Mike has run up to a 100 miler and pac

ed at a few more. He had also run over 20 marathons and organized several fat ass ultras over the years.

Mike lives in Metro Detroit with his wife, 2 kids, and border collie Dash.

http://dirtdawg.podbean.com/

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/root-2-shine/id1099574983

Outro

OK my friends, you have staggered through the dark to the end of episode 4-389 of the RunRunLive Podcast.  Good for you, because theirs not much cover and it was pretty hot. 

Like I said, my training going well and I’ve got nothing to complain about. 

My garden in coming in.  Looks like I’m going to get beans, tomatoes and maybe some squash.  I harvested enough lettuce and kale for 3 lunches this week.  And my berries are coming in.  I was just out there and picked a few.  The birds were screaming at me like I was picking their berries! I’m not sure the half pint of berries is an even trade for the half pint of blood I gave top the mosquitoes to get them. 

I notice my thighs are getting bigger.  That’s an ultra thing.  I remember it from 10 years ago.  I will probably try to see if I can use this fitness in the fall for a marathon.  I remember I hade 2 or 3 really good years after the last ultra cycle I trained through, so maybe there’s a correlation.  Maybe that’s the secret.  Go deep every few years and then coast for a few!

Certainly, setting bigger goals drives bigger changes.  In life as in the training effect.  Set a big goal and do the work to get there.  It’s not rocket science.  Try it.  You’ll see.  Do something that scares you. 

I was a little down after Boston.  I came into this a bit mentally jaded.  I look at all the stuff I’ve done over the last 20 years both personally and endurance sports wise and I get a bit blue.  I think ‘Geez, I’ve done all this stuff, what the heck am I going to do now? And, do I have enough left in me to do anything significant anymore?’  I almost feel like I’m looking at my life in the rearview mirror.

But, again, I’m learning that the basic truths are still true.  Set that big goal and you will figure out how to get there.  Doesn’t matter if your 16 or 60.  It’s what you do today. 

I get asked in my role by board of directors “What are the results going to be this quarter?”  And the way I answer that is, that I can’t tell you exactly what is going to happen in the short term, but I can tell you that we are absolutely doing the things we need to do today to be where we need to be when that time comes.  Because that is what I can control. 

Are you setting goals that scare you? 

Are you doing what you need to do today, right now, to be where you want to be 6 months from now? 

If not, set the timer for 20 minutes and don’t’ stop working until it goes off. 

Then do it again.

You do that and I’ll see you out there!

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The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-388 – Mike Schools us on Form

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Hello and welcome to the RunRunLive Podcast episode 4-388.  This is Chris, your host for today.  Yak farmer.  Zombie hunter.  And amateur consumer of history. 

388 is an odd number.  In the year 388 by the Gregorian Calendar and the Julian Calendar Theodosius I consolidated power in the Western Roman Empire by beating up Magnus Maximus. Magnus Maximus is a kick-ass name.  Magnus Maximus was from Britania and usurped power in one of the messy transitions that went on as the Empire was starting to fall apart. 

It had a larger impact a century or so later because when he left Britain to go fight Theodosius, Magnus Maximus took all the available soldiers with him, which left Britain pretty much unprotected. 

You see, when the Romans assimilated a region, like Britain, they said, “Hey you don’t need forts or weapons because we’re here to protect you now.”  Standard operating procedure to keep the rebellions down. 

When the Romans pulled out those pesky Scots and Irish started raiding and the Romanized Brits had nothing to protect themselves with.  Someone came up with the bright Idea of hiring in some Anglo-Saxons from the continent as mercenaries – and we know how that ended up working out.  That’s why when you refer to England you’re calling them Anglo-Saxons now. 

Anyhow – 388. 

Today we talk with Mike who runs (see what I did there) Mike’s Running School.  We talk about mechanics and form and how to teach running. 

I’m also going to talk about my Ultra-training.  I’m learning a lot!  It’s interesting.  And I’ll do a bunch of product reviews around all the new stuff I’ve gotten in the last couple months.

It’s the summer solstice and the days are long up here.  Not too hot yet but long.  I got my garden in.  I’m been having a pitched battle of my own with the various critters and varmints.  It will all be worth it if I can have that one perfect, warm tomato on a bed of fresh basil. 

It’s also baseball season.  I’ve got a baseball problem that I need help with. 

My wife was cleaning this week and tried to throw out that old baseball bat I have.  Now, I found this bat when I was cleaning out an old house that my dad bought 30-40 year’s ago.  It was just kicking around all these years and somehow I still have it. 

So I looked it up on the internet.  Turns out it is a Spaulding Boys Wagon Tongue bat from somewhere around the 1880’s.  Yeah.  I have a 140 year old bat.  I don’t want it.  But, I would like it to go to a good home. 

Anyone want or need a 140 year old baseball bat? 

On with the show!

I’ll remind you that the RunRunLive podcast is ad free and listener supported.  What does that mean? It means you don’t have to listen to me trying to sound sincere about Stamps.com or Audible.. (although, fyi, my MarathonBQ book is on audible) We do have a membership option where you can become a member and as a special thank you, you will get access to member’s only audio. There are book reviews, odd philosophical thoughts, zombie stories and I curate old episodes for you to listen to.  I recently added that guy who cut off is foot so he could keep training and my first call with Geoff Galloway.   “Curated” means I add some introductory comments and edit them up a bit.  So anyhow – become a member so I can keep paying my bills.

M

The RunRunLive podcast is Ad Free and listener supported.  We do this by offering a membership option where members get Access to Exclusive Members Only audio and articles.

  • Member only race reports, essays and other bits just for you!

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Section one – Ultra Training Update - http://runrunlive.com/ultra-training-update

Voices of reason – the conversation

Mike Antoniades

Mike is the founder and Performance & Rehabilitation Director of the Movement & Running School. Mike’s passion for Rehabilitation, Running and Speed began a long time ago when as teenager he had a serious knee injury.

He specialised in movement re-patterning and rehabilitation after injury or surgery and focused on Speed & Running training for athletes of different sports.

He set-up the first Rehabilitation & Speed centre in the UK 1999 and his Clients include among others : athletes and teams from, The English Premiership, English Championship, German Bundesliga  Rugby Union, Rugby league, Handball, Lacrosse, European Olympic Associations as well as Elite Track & Field athletes including World & Olympic Gold Medallists.

Mike has been a coach for over 35 years and began coaching in 1982. He has worked in the UK, Europe and the USA. He has coached at professional and academy level and is a consultant for a number of professional Soccer clubs as well as track and field and Marathon athletes in the UK and Europe.

www.runningschool.co.uk

 

Section two – Stuff Review 2018 – http://runrunlive.com/stuff-review-spring-summer-2018

Jaybird Run Headphones, Jaybird X3 headphones, TailWind Nutrition Rebuld Recovery, Hammer Nutrition Starter Kit, Squirrel’s nut butter, Three Sisters Herbal Bug Away and Hoka Challenger 3 Trail Shoes

Outro

OK my friends, nice work, you have run crisply with perfect form to the end of episode 4-388 of the RunRunLive Podcast. 

It’s been the end of an easy week for me.  We’ll see what coach has in store for me next week. 

Buddy the ancient wonder dog is doing well.  It’s been cooler and dry.  What really bothers him is the humidity.  When you are mostly covers in a black fur coat it’s hard to cool your core.  I know this from experience. 

Coincidently, I was reading this week that back hair is one of the DNA snippets that we inherited from the Neanderthals. 

I’m short on time today so I’m going to move you quickly to the exit. 

One quick story.  Last year they replaced the ignition on my old motorcycle.  When they did that they saved the old key.  Now I have one key to start it and another to open the gas tank and get into the seat compartment. 

This week when I got home form the office I noticed that I had lost the gas tank key.  Which is a problem.  I had about 110 miles on that tank of gas.  I typically hit the reserve tank around 140-150 miles. 

I called the Honda guys and asked for help.  They forwarded me to Jim’s Key and Lock out in Leominster.  By the way Minster is an Anglo-Saxon word that means church. 

Turns out these tank locks are super easy to pick.  Like child’s play.  The guy popped it right open, read the key code off the lock and made me a couple more keys before I ran out of gas. 

Wasted a day but learned something new. 

I guess the thing I learn as I get older is not to freak out.  I mean when I first saw the key was missing I could have dropped into full-on panic mode and gotten all ‘the sky is falling’ and ‘Woe is me’ but that doesn’t get you any closer to a solution. 

Life’s full of these little irritating events.  This one threatened at first blush to turn my old motorcycle into a paper weight, but it all worked out. 

Don’t worry.  It will all work out. 

I’ll see you out there!

 

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The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-387 – Gene Keeps Getting Faster

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Hello and welcome to the RunRunLive Podcast episode 4-387.  This is Chris, your endurance partner for today’s workout. 

Today we have a chat with Gene Dykes who is currently knocking down most of the over 70 distance records.  He’s found some sort of fountain of youth and just keep s getting faster. 

In section one I’ll give you an update on my 100 miler training and what I’ve learned.  In Section two I’ll talk about the aging athlete.

Buddy the elderly wonder dog is hanging in there.  He goes the first 2 miles of all my trail runs with me.  He got 5 runs in last week.  Then he sleeps.  I sometimes have to carry him up the stairs when his back hips don’t work.  And I don’t expect him to jump up into my truck anymore.  It’s ok.  He’s done his part.  Now it’s my turn. 

I’ve been training consistently.  Typically 6 miles Tuesday, 10 Wednesday and 6 Thursday then back-to-back longs on the weekends.  It’s not a bad cadence.  The trails are drying out. 

The mosquitoes are out but those only get me if I stop too long.  As we get into the summer the deer flies will show up and I’ll have to get some of those sticky patches.  They are real pests.

I booked my hotel for the ultra.  And I got some wonderful news today.  Dirtdawg and JustFinish aka Mike Croy and Kevin Green are going to crew and pace for me.  Both those guys have run this course.  This is a big bonus. 

I got a haircut this weekend, actually on Memorial Day.  The place I usually go was closed for the holiday.  I went to a lower end clip joint chain that was open. 

I was a bit afraid with the guy I got.  I haven’t had high quality experiences with this chain.  But I had a business trip and needed to get it cleaned up. 

The kid was wearing a wrinkled white tee-shirt, looked rather slept-in, with a sleeveless black denim vest covered in studs.  Quite disheveled.  He had goth tattoos all over him and piercings.  Showing my age and upbringing I wondered if putting my grey head in his hands was a smart thing to do.

I had just finished reading Catra Corbett’s new book about how she was a goth meth addict before she got in to ultra-running.  But, looking at this kid I figured he was a bit overweight to be an addict. 

Besides, it’s not hard to cut my hair, what’s left of it that is.  You can’t really screw it up. 

He did a very precise job.  Worked me over like I was some important bonsai topiary.  Even worked on my crazy old-man eyebrows. 

I really need to work on my assumptions and stop profiling people.  We all turn into our parents at some point, don’t we?

On with the show!

I’ll remind you that the RunRunLive podcast is ad free and listener supported.  What does that mean? It means you don’t have to listen to me trying to sound sincere about Stamps.com or Audible.. (although, fyi, my MarathonBQ book is on audible) We do have a membership option where you can become a member and as a special thank you, you will get access to member’s only audio. There are book reviews, odd philosophical thoughts, zombie stories and I curate old episodes for you to listen to.  I recently added that guy who cut off is foot so he could keep training and my first call with Geoff Galloway.   “Curated” means I add some introductory comments and edit them up a bit.  So anyhow – become a member so I can keep paying my bills.

M

The RunRunLive podcast is Ad Free and listener supported.  We do this by offering a membership option where members get Access to Exclusive Members Only audio and articles.

  • Member only race reports, essays and other bits just for you!

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Section one – 100 Miler Training - http://runrunlive.com/training-report-100-miler-from-the-front-lines

Voices of reason – the conversation

Gene Dykes

I’m sure you can make some of the awkward pauses go away, but I suppose trying to figure out what to do when we were talking over each other will be tougher. 

 

I had fun – it’s always fun to talk about running!

 

I’ve attached a couple recent pictures that were pretty good:

 

One shows me during a 24-hour track race a couple weeks ago (I only ran for 14 hours of the Dawn To Dusk To Dawn, though) where I set USATF age group track records for 50K, 50 miles, 100K, and 12 hours.

 

The other shows me at the finish line of the Rotterdam Marathon on April 8, where I ran 2:57:48 to eclipse Ed Whitlock’s 3:00:23 world age 70 record.

 

Section two – Running into the Sunset – http://runrunlive.com/running-into-the-sunset

Outro

OK my friends you have set an impressive age group record while progressing to the end of episode 4-387, nice work. 

Two of my training buddies, from my age group had a good day at the Vermont Cities marathon over the weekend.  They got great weather.  Overcast and cool.  Brian, who ran a 3:35 at Baystate with me in the fall, knocked out a 3:29 change! And Tim powered through to a 3:16.    Now officially the slow guy again!

Watched an great documentary on Netflix called Chuck Norris vs Communism about the impact of bootleg videos on Romanians in the 80’s.  It’s been out for a while but I hadn’t seen it yet.  Really well done.  You’ll like it.  Especially if you lived through that era. 

I have a big weekend coming up.  If I can pull it off I’m going to run 35 on Saturday and another 20 on Sunday.  Yikes! 

I had a good week – got all my runs in.  I had a business trip to Salt Lake and I used that to practice more of this miserable, exhausted running that I’m supposed to be practicing. 

Ran 6 miles Tuesday morning.  Flew out late to Salt Lake.  Got about 5 hours sleep. Got up and went exploring Wednesday morning.

I was originally aiming for the mountains but I ran by a canal, maybe a river, with a wide path so I turned onto that for the bulk of my run.  I ended up getting around 9 miles in, partly because I was running short on time and partly because I ran into a fence. 

The canal trail literally ran into a chain link fence.  I think it was because there was a school nearby and they were trying to keep the kids out.  There was a kid size hole at the bottom.  You know how they bend up the corner of the chain link to get under?  But, I made the decision that I wasn’t going to wriggle under a fence in the suburbs of West Jordan to get that last mile in. 

It was a nice run.  The trail was wide and crushed rock and flat.  It ran behind people’s houses.  A whole line of ¼ acre lots.  It’s always interesting to look into people’s backyards in a voyeuristic way.  Some people had gardens, some had chickens and some had angry dogs. 

The river or canal itself was what I would call grey water.  I don’t know if that is just the color of the water in Salt Lake or if it is some sort of legacy drainage system.  It didn’t smell bad, but it didn’t make me want to go for a swim either. 

Since it’s spring the canal was full of wild ducks and their little gangs of ducklings.  I was subjective to maximum duckling cuteness the whole time as they scurried and paddled away from this strange lumbering thing on the trail in the slanting morning sun.  I even passed a couple ‘joggers’ out there. 

On my way back, when I left the trail I had to navigate the now bustling streets of suburbia.  At one point I was coming up to an intersection and saw a crossing guard.  These are the community volunteers who are posted at busy intersections near schools with a reflective vest, a held held stop placard and a righteous attitude.   

As I was lumbering up the sidewalk towards the intersection I caught the vigilant woman’s eyes and gave her the conspiratorial nod.  She moved out and stopped traffic for me!  I tipped my hat and said “You’re the best!”

The world is a good place filled with good people. 

 I’ll see you out there!

 

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