The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-457 – Cody Runs the USA for Cancer Families

 (Audio: link) audio:]
Link epi4457.mp3

MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks -

Chris’ other show à


Hello my friends and welcome to episode 4-457 of the RunRunLive Podcast. 

How is your week going? 

I understand from the news that much of you across the US are suffering through a heat wave.  That’s too bad.  115 degrees in Phoenix.  That’s toasty.  Makes it hard to get outside. 

I remember one time going running in Las Vegas, in the afternoon, after an all-day meeting, like an idiot, and then I got lost.  I could see where I wanted to be but I couldn’t find my way through all the fences and the buildings to get there.  I remember being seriously concerned for my well-being with the heat. 

But, apparently I lived.  Vegas is a weird place. 

I am still nursing a sore knee but as of today it seems to be getting a bit better and I’m hopeful.  I joined the gym.  I’ve been lifting heavy for the last couple weeks.  It gives me something to do. 

I used to lift in my 20’s before I got into distance running.  I had a guy I worked with who was an actual body builder and was able to learn some basic things that I still have in my tool kit.  Like good form and the different ways to go after the different muscle groups. 

Over the last 20 years with running I rarely lifted heavy.  My workouts were always light weight, high rep and mostly body weight.  You don’t need that kind of muscle mass or strength for running.  It’s counterproductive. 

The difference is that instead of doing body weight or light dumbbells for high-rep sets of exercises you do fewer reps with heavier weight. For instance instead of 20 reps with 15 pound dumbbells you might do 8 reps with 30 pound dumbbells.  The difference is that the lower reps produce strength and muscle mass while the lower weight, higher reps result in less muscle mass and more endurance. 

I have been getting 3 or more bike rides in each week with a longer ride on the weekend.  Typically I‘ll do an hour and change on the weekdays and 2-3 hours on the weekend. 

I backed off on trying to run after the previous week’s fiasco.  When I first joined the gym I jumped on the treadmill but it was awful.  I haven’t been on a treadmill in 18 months.  I had forgotten how awful it is.  Then I made a huge mistake and tried to use one of the old LifeCycle bikes in the gym.  The problem is that the angles are so different from an actual bicycle that it really tweaked my knee. 

But I have started again this week.  Sunday, I ran an easy 5k on the roads with my club.  We were able to all get together and have a brunch for the first time in a year and a half so that was joyous. 

Tuesday, I did another easy 5k on the rail-trail, pain free.  And yesterday I did a whopping 40 minutes of road and rail trail with some hills and trail sections, again pain free.  Pretty happy about that. 

I’m so hilariously out of shape that I have to get used to running being hard.  I have to watch out for all the beginner runner things like blisters and chaffing and Achilles tendonitis. 

Today we are talking with a nice young man Cody, who is aspiring to do a cross country run to support families dealing with cancer in a child.  It’s a good story.  He’s a positive influencer. 

In section one I’ll talk a bit about an observation that all the records for running are falling and why. 

In section two I’ll talk about a current phenomena that is being called the ‘turnover tsunami’, but I think it should be called the ‘JobQuake’. 

So Ollie is doing fine.  It’s my habit to take him for a walk when I get up in the morning.  This week I got up went down stairs and when I looked out the front door there was a rabbit sitting in the front lawn.  I thought, ‘well that’s going to make Ollie crazy’, but what can you do. 

So, I sat to put my shoes on. 

When I got back up to put the leash on Ollie, I looked out to see if the rabbit was still there.  And there was a big owl sitting on top of the rabbit looking at me. 

Not kidding.  A bit of a Wild Kingdom moment.  The owl looks at me for awhile and I guess decided I was scary, it takes off and the rabbit runs away. 

One of those early morning things where your have to scratch your head and wonder. 

Sometimes life is just being in the right place at the right time.

On with the show!



About Zero

ZERO — The End of Prostate Cancer is the leading national nonprofit with the mission to end prostate cancer. ZERO advances research, improves the lives of men and families, and inspires action.

Link to my ZERO page: (for Donations)

I’ll remind you that the RunRunLive podcast is ad free and listener supported.  What does that mean? It means you don’t have to listen to me trying to sound sincere about or Audible.. (although, fyi, my MarathonBQ book is on audible) We do have a membership option where you can become a member and as a special thank you, you will get access to member’s only audio. There are book reviews, odd philosophical thoughts, zombie stories and I curate old episodes for you to listen to.  I recently added that guy who cut off is foot so he could keep training and my first call with Geoff Galloway.   “Curated” means I add some introductory comments and edit them up a bit.  So anyhow – become a member so I can keep paying my bills.


The RunRunLive podcast is Ad Free and listener supported. 

Become a member

Section one – 24 Hour Fast -

Voices of reason – the conversation

Cody O'Connor – Cody Runs the USA for Cancer Families


Cody O'Connor

My name is Cody O'Connor and after defeating cancer, losing my right fibula and being told I’d never walk normally again- I am embarking on the quest to walk across the USA. When fighting, I saw how my temporary illness was impacting my family. Seeing the struggles they faced I created Champions Do Overcome, a 501(c)3 non profit organization. CDO, supports families through paying monthly bills, providing food/gas, etc. which reduces stress on the family, and ensures no child is left to fight the beast alone. All of this to spread hope to all that need it coast to coast, and change the outcome for children battling pediatric cancer.

Please follow our journey @overcomerteam on Instagram.

Please consider donating to our cause at:

Fundraiser by Cody O'Connor : Walk For Hope - Cross USA Walk For Cancer Relief (


Companies Involved:

Kroger & affiliates,  Infinit Nutrition, Altra Running, MyMedic, Dude Wipes, MyFanThreads, Groov App, GermX, Sacan Martial Arts, Feedback Audiology Solutions & Consulting

Influencers Involved:


Rich Franklin (UFC Hall of Famer), Ben Higgins (Bachelor Star Season 20), Ashley I and Jared Haibon (Bachelor in Paradise), Harvey Lewis (Team USA 24 Hr. Run Team), and Pete Kostelnick (Record for running across USA)


Section two – Turning difficult work situations to your advantage -




Ok my friends we have run across the US of A to the end of episode 4-457 of the RunRunLive Podcast.  And a good time was had by all.

All-in-all I can’t complain.  I’m reasonably healthy, the days are long and the weather is nice.  Feels good to be taking it easy in the summertime. 

I have managed to lose 10 of the 20 pounds I had found.  It doesn’t come off as fast when you’re not running.  I’m not a naturally slender person and I have to work at it.  That’s one of the reasons I’m lifting is to build up some more muscle, not just to be stronger, but to burn more calories. 

I ordered a couple new short sleeve shirts from Amazon.  I needed some new bike shorts anyhow so I figured I might as well get up to the free shipping.  I ordered them as mediums.  My whole life I ordered large shirts.  Now I’m wearing medium.  Not sure if I got smaller or they adjusted the sizes.  Probably a little of both.  This week is Prime Day for all you techy folks who need new gadgets. 

I don’t have a Prime membership.  I leach off my daughter’s membership for the Prime video.  I don’t buy enough stuff to make it worth it.  I really don’t need my orders to come same day.  Call me old, but I like waiting for the stuff to come.  You forget about it and when it shows up it’s a nice surprise. 

I found another, hopefully better, dog training center for Ollie.  It’s up in New Hampshire.  We’ll see if they can help me with his aggressive behavior.  He’s even more nuts than normal when he can’t run.  I’m telling people I had to go out of state with him because he’s exhausted all the local trainers. 

Not sure what my plans are for the rest of the summer.  I’ve gotten a couple runs in this week pain free.  I’ll go out with the club tomorrow and see how it feels.  If I can keep stringing pain free runs in maybe I can get back into the woods, just in time for deer fly season.  That would help Ollie. 

It’s ironic.  I remember when Buddy was a puppy back in the early 2000’s, I crashed my truck and smashed my knee.  That was in the late summer and it took me a year to get back in shape – I ended up requalifying at that rail trail marathon in Baltimore the following Thanksgiving. 

So, yeah irony.  New dog.  Smashed the other knee. 

But it all works out. 

My garden is growing well.  Being home and able to water it every day is helpful, even though the weather has been weird.  I’ve already started harvesting lettuces and should have peas in the next couple weeks.  But, the best garden story is the mint.

I have this mint that we had growing at our house when I was a kid.  I transplanted some into my garden.  This stuff is a weed.  It grows everywhere and you can’t kill it. 

It’s the family mint. 

Which is nice and everything but what do you do with it?  I know people will say mint jelly and such but that’s all a ruse.  I’m not making mint jelly.  So basically I just weed it out of my garden every year.  But, this year, being still working from home, I discovered the fresh mint makes awesome tea.  I’m drinking some right now  You just throw some leaves into your cup and pour hot water over it and Bam! You have excellent mintyness. 

Finally, I know there is a lot of change going on.  There has been change going on for the last couple years.  Lots of chaos.  And I know that has an impact on people.

I’m going to give you a simple thought to help with that chaos.  Think about it this way.  You are an island in the sea of chaos.  What can you do in your little boat out there in the crashing waves of chaos? 

You get to choose.  And what you choose makes a difference.

You can choose to be an island of chaos in the chaos or you can choose to be an island of calm in the chaos.  When you choose to be an island of calm there is nothing that the chaos can do to hurt you.  It can’t get to you.  You choose to be ok.  You choose to be happy.  You choose to not ignore the chaos, but to let it flow around you. 

When you choose to be this island of calm, you’ll notice that others are drawn to your calm. 

You are a leader. 

You become the gravity well that sucks others in and then you can work together to find a path through the chaos.

You get to choose.  Through your attitude and actions. Are you an island of chaos or an island of calm?

Be the island of calm in the chaos.


I’ll see you out there.

MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks -


Rachel ->

Coach Jeff ->


Direct download: epi4457.mp3
Category:Running -- posted at: 6:51pm EDT





May 2022
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31