The RunRunLive 3.0 Podcast Episode 3-280 – Woody Woodburn – Coach Wooden’s Gifts

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Hello friends.  Welcome to the RunRunLive Podcast.  I understand that we got picked up by Stitcher Radio recently.  Which is a surprise to me because I opted to not sign their agreement a couple years back when they came out. 

You see, one of things that I’ve been responsible for in my work world is contracts and their IP clause concerned me.  Basically they reserved the right to take indiscriminant chunks of content out of the podcasts and use them for other purposes. 

I guess they decided their contract wasn’t all that essential to using my content?  Hmm… So I guess I could sue them for IP theft if I was that sort of litigational wanker…which I’m not.

On a similar topic I’ve managed to cut the tether to the ‘Podcast’ app on my iPhone.  It was so dysfunctional.  I use PodCruncher now for my podcast downloads.  It even lets you bypass iTunes and go straight to the RSS source for updates.  This is useful if you want to listen to people who don’t use iTunes to publish their podcasts like our lovable but slightly paranoid friend Nigel.

But anyhoo, if your new, welcome.  I’m Chris and we’ve got some cool and thought provoking stuff for you today in our ongoing quest to figure this world out…and run some quality miles too.

Today we talk to Woody Woodburn who is a sportswriter who has recently published and interesting book that explores his relationship with a famous college basketball coach here is the states – John Wooden.  Coach Wooden had a unique philosophy.  Coach was very successful with molding young people into accomplished athletes and humans.  He simplified the lessons of life into repeatable habits that led to success. 

Habit is a very powerful thing.  Many of the current life-hacking tactics rely on habit hacking.  If you think habits aren’t powerful try putting your wallet in another pocket, or wearing your watch on the other wrist or talking your partner into sleeping on the other side of the bed.  Habits allow us to live life without getting overwhelmed and when they are wrapped around a life purpose they are unbeatable.

I also talk about the importance of tending to your personal brand in section one, and in section two I talk about what to consider when packing for a travel marathon.

Like Buddy the old wonder-dog, I too am in the doldrums of running.  You might say now is the winter of my discontent!  I still haven’t recovered from the ankle issue that I caused racing New Year’s Day.  I tested it out too early and made it mad. I’ve basically been pool running for 3 weeks. 

People say ‘you must hate pool running!’  But, I don’t I find it quite peaceful and it is inside out of the elements.  If you don’t remember, pool running is a way to continue your training without any weight bearing running – search my blog for it if you want the deep explanation.

I’ve got it wired.  I go to the pool late or on off hours so I can have some peace.  I bought an aqua-jog belt because the ones at the club were always in disarray if available at all.  I fold one of those kid noodles in half and stuff that up the back of the belt to get a nice high ride in the water and keep my fee from scuffing on the bottom.

I put my iPhone in a plastic bag and stick it in my swim cap with the headphones run down to my ears.  I can also stick the gym-boss timer in there if I’m doing intervals.  Then I just spin away in a running like motion back and forth in the deep end.  I look like a total tool, but , like I said, it’s peaceful.

I’m going down to Waco Texas with Ryan this weekend, against Coaches orders to attempt the marathon.  There’s no way I’m going to race.  Instead I’ll see what Ryan wants to get done and pace him to his goal.  I think if I go slow (er), tape the ankle and wear the Hokas I can come out of it without hurting myself. 

It looks like I’m going to have to let my BQ go for the near future, but I don’t want to let my marathon a month go – it just feels like quitting even if I’ve got a bunch of perfectly good excuses.

The parts of my life that you don’t know about have been fairly active recently and that’s pulling some bandwidth away from my training. 

A quick story. 

I signed back up with the health club in early January so I could use the pool.  Of course this coincides with the other hundred jaded housewives and enervated couch potatoes that signed up as revolutionists at the same time.

The following week I get a message at home from the fitness director wanting to schedule a meeting so he can help me set up the appropriate fitness plan.  That’s funny.  I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want to get involved in my fitness plans!

Another story.

I’m in the gym over the weekend doing a leg strength workout – all lunges and squats.  This guy sits down and starts watching me.  I’m tuned out on the head phones but make some passing comment about it being a ‘hill strength workout’. 

After a couple sets he says to me “You know, you’d get more out of those if you fixed your form…” Of course he’s right, I’m rushing the sets but I thought that was pretty funny.

Keep those lamps trimmed and burning my friends…

On with the Show!

Section one:

Personal branding -

Featured Interview:

Woody Woodburn -

Wooden & Me: Life Lessons from My Two-Decade Friendship with the Legendary Coach and Humanitarian to Help "Make Each Day Your Masterpiece


Woody Woodburn has been a sports columnist for more than twenty-five years in Southern California. National recognition for Woodburn’s writing includes First Place for Column Writing by the Associated Press News Executive Council; Column Writing honors by the Associated Press Sports Editors; E.W. Scripps Newspapers “Columnist of the Year” and Copley News Service’s “Columnist of the Year.” In 2003, Woodburn was inducted into the Jim Murray Memorial Foundation’s Journalists Hall of Fame. His work has appeared in The Best American Sports Writing anthology, The Sporting News, and numerous Chicken Soup For The Soul anthologies. He also co-authored Raising Your Child To Be A Champion In Athletics, Arts and Academics (Kensington Publishing/Citadel Press, 2004).

Woody, 53, is also a runner and “Streaker” having run at least 3 miles every day since July 7, 2003 with an average daily total of 8.8 miles. His “young” PR in the marathon is 2:58 at age 22 and his “old” PR at age 49  is 3:11. He lives in Ventura, California, with his wife Lisa; the couple has two adult children, daughter Dallas and son Greg. He can be contacted through his website:

John Robert Wooden (October 14, 1910 – June 4, 2010) was an American basketball player and coach. Nicknamed the "Wizard of Westwood," as head coach at UCLA he won ten NCAA national championships in a 12-year period—seven in a row[1]— an unprecedented feat.[2][3] Within this period, his teams won a record 88 consecutive games.[1] He was named national coach of the year six times.

As a player, Wooden was the first to be named basketball All-American three times, and he won a Helms Athletic Foundation National Championship at Purdue in 1932, seven years before the birth of the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship. Wooden was named a member of theBasketball Hall of Fame as a player (inducted in 1961) and as a coach (in 1973), the first person ever enshrined in both categories. Only Lenny Wilkens and Bill Sharman have since had the same honor.[4]

One of the most revered coaches in the history of sports,[1] Wooden was beloved by his former players, among them Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Walton. Wooden was renowned for his short, simple inspirational messages to his players, including his "Pyramid of Success". These often were directed at how to be a success in life as well as in basketball.[1]


Section two:

Packing for an Away Race -


Ok my cold and shivering friends.  Just think only 3 months until the Boston Marathon and swimsuit season shortly after that!

Going to get busy now as we work our way through the late winter into spring and then into the Boston Marathon and the Groton Road Race. 

The Groton Road Race is a race or more exactly a series of races in my home town of Groton Massachusetts that we’ve scheduled for April 27th 2014 this year.  Mark your diaries.  I’ve got all the sponsors locked, the insurance done and the awesome team that works on this is way ahead of the curve this year. 

We’re going to be featured in the April Runner’s World, supposedly, and that’s pretty cool.

If I get through Waco I ‘m scheduled to run New Orleans the following weekend with Eric.  I’ll take it as it comes.  It looks like I’ll be on another trip to Europe right after that! Sheesh! I also managed to sign up for a fairly popular and famous trail marathon for my March race.  Now I’ll I have to do is stay upright. 

I have to admit that in these short, dark, cold days of winter I feel a bit sick of it all and want to hide my head under the covers and pillows instead of taking my lance to the daily windmills.  That’s why I need you good folks to give me strength.  

Yes it will get crazy, there will be stress, there will be births and deaths; beginnings, middles and ends but we will get through it with the support of our families and friends.  We’ll keep our heads and go forward with honest intent.  We will be captains of our own ships, confident amidst the crashing waves of the world. 

Because we are leaders and endurance athletes and we are strong.

We will make each day our masterpiece.

And I’ll see you out there.

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