The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-398 – Kat Comes Back  

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MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks -

Hello and welcome to the RunRunLive Podcast episode 4-398. 

I was on Facebook Messenger this week and realized there were unread messages in there.  Some several years old.  I’m not sure if this was an artifact of some server upgrade or from when they pulled Messenger out into a separate app, but If you sent me a Facebook message and didn’t’ hear back, I apologize. 

I usually respond to everything.  I like interacting. Hope I didn’t cause anyone to give up. 

Today we talk with Katrin who’s story I found in my Boston Marathon Training group.  Some interesting stories in there.  I wanted to talk to her because she was able to accomplish something I have never been able to.  She was able to race herself into the hospital. 

I don’t know about you, but I tend to give up way before I collapse on the course.  Don’t worry, it has a happy ending. 

In section one I’m going to explore the concept of mastery.  In section two I’m going to talk about happiness and purpose. 

I’ve been working on myself over the last couple weeks.  Not just physically but overall.  I’m working with Rachel on my nutrition, I’m doing some personal improvement work and I’ve got my morning routine going. 

I go through cycles and I was ready for a reboot. 

One of the things that popped up is I have another book in my mind that is begging to get out.  How blessed am I that these things just stand up and shout every now and then?

I’ve just started but the topic is going to be Startup Sales.  It’s going to be for the entrepreneur who has a  started a company, with a great idea and great promise but has to learn how to sell that idea and promise. 

This is my 3rd trip through the startup cycle and I think I could help a lot of people.  Not just the tactical ‘how to’ but the emotional wrapper that comes with navigating the choppy seas of a startup. 

Much like I combined the tactical practice of speedwork with the ability to mentally survive the dark places of an intense training campaign in MarathonBQ. 

I’m still in formulation mode, but if you have any good ideas or want to introduce me to a publisher or want to ride along as an editor or muse, let me know.

As you listen through today think about how you can focus on mastery and not just competence or getting by.  Listen to how Katrin was able to navigate the extreme learning of her two marathons. 

Think about what you love doing, what your purpose is and why you are here. 

And I’m glad you’re here. 


On with the show!

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Section one – Mastery-


Voices of reason – the conversation

Katrin Maesse

My third marathon, two words: Boston Qualification!!!💙💛 The official finishing time was 3:28:50h, so much better than I thought it would be! Not sure if this will be really enough for Boston but for now I take it - happy and proud! 🎉
As usual, I went out too fast, so I took it easier after the first 17 miles. However, it was amazing from the start to the finish. I met super cool people to chat with, could motivate two guys not to walk but to stay with me for some miles, celebrated with the cheering crowed and loved to see my cheerleaders Christophand Donna along the course 😍26.2 miles of smiling! 
Right before mile 24 and again before mile 26 I had bad cramps and needed to stop to stretch my calves..I finished on cramping legs but I finished! I cried many happy tears, started smiling again and gave high fives to every single Marine I met on the way to my medal! 
Happy and proud of todays achievement! Like Adrianne would say: I can do hard things! ❤️

Section two – Happiness and Purpose-


Thank you my friends for joining me for Episode 4-398 of the RunRunLive Podcast – were you able to collapse, recover and keep going? 

I’m still taking it relatively easy now.  I’m working with my nutrition coach Rachel to get healthy over the next few months (and of course lighter) so I can put a good training cycle in for the spring. 

I go through cycles of good nutrition and those typically last with some point adjustments for a couple years and then I need to get help again for a few months.  I’m definitely in the conscious competence Phase where I know what I’m supposed to do but have trouble executing. 

If anyone wants to work with Rachel, I’ll put her links in the show notes, or you can shoot me an email at cyktrussell at gmail dot com.

Next up for me is a Thanksgiving Day race that I run every year with my younger daughter.  I’m not expecting much but I’ll go give it a whirl, see my friends, have some fun. 

I’m a big consumer of podcasts.  Partly it’s my personality type where I just hate to waste time, so if I’m in my car or on the run I listen to podcasts.  I have smattering of business and pleasure and have gotten good at cycling on to new ones when I feel like it and ignoring old ones, otherwise the list of un-listened to podcasts will pile up and make you feel guilty.  It’s ok.  It’s ok.  Listen to what you like and dump what you don’t. You’re under no obligation. 

I don’t’ listen to those running podcasts where people just get on and talk while they run.  It’s just not interesting to me.  And I don’t feel like I get a lot out of the ‘how to’ running podcasts either. 

Here are a few episodes or podcasts that have stood out in the last few months.  I’ll try to link them in the notes.

First is a new podcast called Ultra running history by Davey Crockett.  Davey does a great job of producing a show.  It is well recorded with good audio and lots of sound effects and sound bites.  The history of ultra events is super interesting.

Another show I have on my feed, like millions of other folks is Tim Ferris.  I would never say that a person as successful as Tim impresses me as a narcissistic ass most of the time, I would never say that, and I dislike the self-indulgent super long format, so I pick and choose based on the guest.  A recent episode #343 featured Seth Godin.  Seth is a wonderfully centered and mindful person.  That is a great listen.

Since I’m a New England boy I have been listening to ‘Gladiator’ – by the Boston Globe which is a 6 part series on the rise and fall of Aaron Hernandez.  It’s super dark, but if you remember the murder trial and suicide of Hernandez you’ll be fascinated.

Our friend Zen Runner is doing a new project called ‘Zen 2 Zion – Road to Ultra’ where he is training to run an ultra with his daughter.  It’s charming.  And Adam has always been a good podcaster.

A good, short listen is ‘The Way Heard it’ by Mike Row of Dirty Jobs fame.  He’s a great story teller and these are good little bits of joyful story telling.  (by the way, Tim Ferris’ interview of Mike Rowe was really good too)

Lastly, before I move you to the exit, one of the shows I have on my feed is On Being by Krista Tippet.  I believe this is a public radio show as well.  She talks to authors, poets, philosophers and others about super deep woo woo stuff.  I don’t listen to all of them.  I choose a couple here and there that interest me. 

She recently did a show with Sally Kohn and Erik Erickson – called ‘Relationship Across Rupture’ which was really good.  I try to avoid politics, especially in the current political climate, I find it a waste of energy, but I found this almost a antidote for our current political emotions. 

She hold a forum with Sally Kohn who was the Lesbian liberal foil on Fox News for many years and Erik Erickson who is a conservative pundit and radio personality from Georgia. 

Instead of setting it up as your typical cable news cage match they explore all the things we have in common.  And at the end of the day you realize that we have 85% in common and only these few things that separate. 

That’s the great realization.  No matter who you are. When you look across the way at your supposed adversaries, they are not bad people.  They want what’s best of their family and their country, just like you do.  If you had dinned with them you would like each other, as people, not positions. 

The things that separate are small things that have been whipped into big things by people with agendas. We are better than that. 

I found it like a giant relief.  Almost life-affirming. 

So master a bit of listening and I’ll see you out there.

MarathonBQ – How to Qualify for the Boston Marathon in 14 Weeks -


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