The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-403 – Marnie’s Art Adventures

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Hello, my friends and welcome to the RunRunLive Podcast episode 4-403. 

How is everyone doing?  Reinvigorated for this new year?  No?  Feeling the cold winter doldrums? 

Well snap out of it!  Put on your big pants! Suck it up Buttercup! 

There are roads to be run, there are adventures to be had, there are people to see, people like Marnie, who we talk to today, who did what we all want to do – she took two of her passions – running and art and mixed them together with community to form a little tribe, a little business. 

And that was a 56-word long sentence! Vladmir Nabokov would be proud.  Who needs grammar?  It just slows the creative flow.  The first written languages had no grammar.  They were just strings of words. That’s why you need priests to read them and interpret them.  I suppose not unlike our current internet…

Anyhow – back to our story.  And what a story it is!

I am neck deep and two months out from my 21st Boston Marathon.  My training is going as well as can be expected.  I’m getting all the workouts in.  I’m light and strong.  Weighed in at 172.8 pounds this morning with 9.9% body fat. 

Those are random numbers without some context.   What’s the baseline here?  When I raced my PR’s Decades ago the lightest I ever got was the low 180’s.  But as you get old you lose muscle mass.  Just looking at my body composition now at 173 versus then at 185 – they are close to equivalent.  Meaning I’ve lost about 10 pounds of body mass over 20 years.  Some is muscle mass, some is fat storage, some is the shrinking of my brain. 

Because we all know that people start losing their minds as they get older, right?  Kurt Vonnegut referred to the 6 pounds of brain in the human skull dismissively as nothing more than “A dog’s Breakfast”. 

As for body fat %, a healthy male is not going to get much leaner than 3-6%.  5% is often quoted as the apex of physical, lean, fitness, - the gold standard - for men.  6-10% is considered ‘athletic’ for men.  Women are designed differently and normally (key word there ladies) ‘normally’ are 7-9% higher in fat percentage across the board on all these numbers.

In section one I will talk about listening to your bodies.  And in section two I’ll talk about a book I read called “The Subtle Art of not Giving a F*CK” 

What I love about Marnie’s story is that she took a personal adventure, running around her neighborhood, and turned it into a ‘thing’.  You don’t have to get on an aeroplane or cross an ocean to have a fulfilling adventure.  Adventures are all around you.  You just have to reach out and grab them. 

You might even say; the adventure is inside you. 

On with the show.

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Section one – Listening to your body -

Voices of reason – the conversation


Thank you so much for the interview! I am excited about this. To answer your questions:


  1. A short bio for the notes:

Marnie Kunz is a running coach, writer, and entrepreneur. She is the founder of Runstreet Art Runs, which fuse running and street art to bring people together to learn about art in their communities while getting in a fun workout.


  1. a good picture for the episode art - Please see attached. Photo by Filles Garcons Photography.
  2. Any links you want to include. Sure!


Runstreet Art Runs

Runstreet Instagram

Runstreet Twitter

Runstreet Facebook

Marnie's writing on Runstreet and on Medium


Let me know if you need anything else. Thank you!!





Section two – Life sucks, then you die… -


Well, my friends you have taken a small adventure to the end of the RunRunLive Podcast episode 4-403.  It’s a rough stretch for me.  I’ve got Valentines Day, my wife’s birthday and our wedding anniversary all in the same 3 week period. 

It is a dark time where the alpha male must stick to the shadows and hunt carefully. A time fraught with peril. 

Like I said we are 2 months out from Boston.  I’ve been doing some daily blogging of my workouts and other tidbits on my website if anyone is interested.  The challenge I have is that I’m usually writing those posts at night, after my workout, when I’m half asleep and brain dead. 

I do a lot of monosyllabic grunting – and that doesn’t translate into prose well. 

I’ve been challenged to keep up with the podcast for a few reasons.  Primarily I don’t have a good place to record.  I used to work from home on Fridays and that was  good, but my wife has decided to take Fridays off – so she’s podcast-blocking all of you. 

I’m actually in a conference room right now in the building I work at.  The space that the company has is designed into an old manufacturing space.  I don’t have a real office with a door and the acoustics are terrible.  So, we’ll test this out and see how it works.  I may have to build a studio somewhere. 

Another podcast prohibitor is that coach has been scheduling big workouts for me on Fridays.  I came in early this morning to hit the treadmill. He gave me a 7 by 7 minutes at 5K pace. Which is not an easy workout.  With the warm up and cool down and shower you are at over an hour and a half, close to two hours. 

Having these long, hard workouts hanging over my head on a Friday screws up my schedule and my head. 

I had a video shoot in the office today so I had to get cleaned up.  Of course, no matter how much time you spend wandering around the house preparing stuff for work and the gym you always forget something. 

This morning was a belt, which was a problem because I’m so lean my pants are falling off me.  I had to have my wife run a belt over.  Good thing it was her day off! 

With Sunday’s 2:30 long run this will give me another 50ish mile week.  So far, so good. 

You may have thought the message of the don’t give a F book was a bit depressing.  But the power of that message is a reset to reality and critical thinking.  When you are forced to confront the fact that life is suffering, you’re not all that special and none of it is going to matter in 100 years anyway it frees you. 

It frees you to not take yourself so damn seriously.  It frees you to choose what makes you happy. It frees you to execute with detachment and that enables you to get stuff done, important stuff, that will, at the end of the day make a difference and ease your own and other peoples’ suffering. 

So – detaching, helps you to find and to own your own journey. 

At least that’s what my dog’s breakfast is telling me. 

I’ll see you out there,

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