The RunRunLive 4.0 Podcast Episode 4-461 – Jackie - Sidelined USA

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Hello my friends and welcome to episode 4-461 of the RunRunLive Podcast. 

Today we’ve got a great chat with Jackie from Sidelined USA an organization that helps athletes deal with career -ending injury and rebuild for a positive life. 

In section one we are going to talk about Molly Seidel.  Because she’s a great story on so many levels.

In section two I’ll give you a quick report out on the century ride I did last week with my running bros.

Yup, took a day off from work and went for along ride with Frank, Tim and Brian.  We rode out to Rockport and back.  Tim made a movie out of it you can see on YouTube if you google “Century in the Rain

The big news from my side is that I had a follow up appointment with my Knee doctor and the new MRI shows that my injury is not getting better. 

Let me explain, because I have a better idea of what the injury is now, and I think I can explain it better. 

Before, when I got the first MRI in May, he said I had a ‘stress fracture’.  That’s misleading.  It is more of ‘stress reaction’.  On the MRI it’s a cloudy spot, like a bruise, not a jagged crack or break. 

Picture a pirate flag with the skull and cross bones.  Those cross bones on the pirate flag are the femur bones.  That’s the big bone that plugs into your hip socket at the top and rests on your knee at the bottom. 

If you look at the depiction on the pirate flag the end of the bones have these two pronounced knobs sticking out at the end of the bone.  That’s not really what they look like but it’s a good illustration of the area I’m talking about.  Those knobs are chondral.

The left chondral on my knee has this stress reaction.  Inside the knob, the chondral is a spongy material.  This is where my stress reaction is.  So, you could say it’s a persistent bruise inside the chondral. 

Why is it not getting better?  2 reasons.  First reason is that it can naturally take a long time to heal.  Second reason is I’m a compulsive idiot and won’t stay off it. 

A couple other points. 

First, unlike a tendon or ligament injury, this isn’t going to create scar tissue.  It’s just going to eventually heal.   Second is that you don’t want to completely stop using it, you need to keep the joints in motion for it to heal properly. 

Another point is that this area does get good blood flow.  This will help it heal eventually without it getting chronic. 

The doctor says I can still bike, hikle and do any other exercise.  You can’t reasonably stay off it.  It just takes awhile to heal.   

There is a treatment where they inject something into that spongey material, like a cement or gel to basically fill up the space and create structure in there, but that sounds a bit invasive to me.

Other than that, the knee cartilage and meniscus are fine. 

So, I’ll just stay off the running for a few more months and give it a chance to heal.

The challenge I have, that you all already know is that there is no other exercise as simple, effective and fulfilling as a good long run.  I’m having to work really hard on my diet to make up for those 3,000 calories a week.

Biking, swimming and lifting are great, but they require equipment, and a venue.  Running is open the door and go.  And, Ollie can’t do those other sports with me. 

Anyhow, that’s my update.  Now I just have to focus on staying fit and sane until it heals.

My friend Tom from my running club lost his fight with prostate cancer last week. It left us all a bit shaken. 

I’ll tell you a Tom story. 

You know I’ve been heart rate training for many years.  I remember posting my heart rate efforts and my zones.  Tom, who was always curious about new ways to improve his running, would quiz me on heart rate topics when we got together.  He was quite concerned because, while my resting heart rate is in the high 30’s his was in the mid-70’s. 

So my zone 4 efforts were his zone 2 efforts.  I had to talk him down off the ledge and assure him that everyone was different and there was no normal.   I don’t think he was happy with that answer.  Basically, that I was reptilian in my HR and he was more of a hummingbird. 

Tom always showed up.  Always helped.  Never complained.

And we’re going to miss him.

On with the show!


About Zero

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Section One – Molly Seidel -

Jackie Allibone
Director of Marketing & Development

Sidelined USA -


Sidelined USA exists to reunite permanently-sidelined athletes with their passions and inspire them to find a meaningful way forward.


To see athletes create a positive mindset within themselves, requiring their personal best, in order to confidently face and overcome their challenges, both on and off the court/field.


Sidelined USA, a 501(c)3 nonprofit, operates entirely on the generosity of the community - individual donors, foundations, and companies.  Will you join us in empowering medically sidelined athletes to find their own “comeback” stories? 

What We Do

Sidelined USA serves the community of permanently sidelined athletes in three ways:

RESOURCES - We publish research-based articles and interviews to assist in a healthy adjustment and psychological recovery.

CONNECTION - We connect sidelined athletes to others who have experienced a medically-forced exit from competition through our Sidelined Stories interviews and our online connection group.

NEW PURSUITS - We inspire and equip sidelined athletes to adapt to their new reality by re-engaging with the sports world through alternate avenues.


Additionally, we engage in original research, education, and advocacy projects in order raise awareness for improved after-care of medically disqualified athletes on a national scale.

RESEARCH - Recognizing a significant lack of data related to medical disqualification in the U.S. and the limited research on the psychological impact of medical exit from sport, the Sidelined USA team is currently engaging in two research studies to better inform the sports medicine community about best practices for the after-care of medically disqualified athletes.

EDUCATION - Our team provides education for athletic trainers, coaches, parents in order to raise awareness of the psychological impact of a medically-forced exit from sport and provides guidelines for best practices on supporting sidelined athletes in their transition forward.

ADVOCACY - Sidelined USA recognizes that for far too long there has been a significant gap in resources to support medically disqualified athletes in their transition forward. We advocate for additional research and data collection and are teaming up with up with national organizations to create a standard of care for medically disqualified athletes.



Section Two – Century in the Rain -


Ok my friends we have had a career-ending injury that has forced us to the end of episode 4-461 of the RunRunLive Podcast.  Now to find some other way to burn 3,000 calories a week.  

I went down to the local pond, you might call it a lake, but in New England it’s a pond.   Interestingly ‘pond’ originally meant an artificial body of water.  The original English word was pound.  We still use that in New England in the original sense, with the term, “lobster pound”… which means a tank of water you keep live lobsters in.  Anyhow, I went down to my local pond after weightlifting at the gym this week.  Went out and swam a ½ mile.  Felt good.  Out of shape, but my form is good. 

I managed to find my googles and ear plugs.  I did find a swim cap but it disintegrated when I tried to put it on.  My wife thought that was hilarious. I’ll have to dig out the old tri-wetsuit as it gets colder.  Right now, that’s not a problem.  We had a mini-heat wave last week and the top couple feet of water in the pond is very warm.  It’s still cold under that, so I could dive down to cool off.  

I was a little apprehensive to swim out into the middle of the pond.  Since Covid the local news has been filled with people drowning.  It seems, just like in the trails, people who wouldn’t normally be at the local water holes are, if you’ll excuse the turn of phrase, diving right in.  Many of them have gotten into trouble. 

It got me to thinking that I haven’t swum for a couple years, and I’m just the kind of guy they describe who overestimates his ability. 

But, like I said, it felt fine.  I had some cramping in my feet and my form got a little sloppy as I got tired but for the life of me, I don’t think drowning is an outcome to be worried about. 

I think what’s gets people in trouble is that they get a cramp or something and then panic.  When you’re in the water panic is bad.  The more you fight the water the harder it is to stay afloat. 

So, anyhow, swimming. 

I do still have a couple of races on the calendar.  I’m still going to go down to the Bird in Hand half.  Even though I am going to stop running altogether.  I’ll hook up with my Galloway walk/run friends and have some fun. 

Then I have the virtual Boston Marathon in October.  Looks like I’ll have to full-on walk it.  So, any ideas on a good 26.2 mile hike I can do?  Maybe collect some donations for Prostate Cancer?  That sounds like a worthy cause.

Lemons and lemonade my friends. 

This morning I thought my club was having a brunch run, so I picked up a traveler of coffee at Starbucks and headed over.  It wasn’t until I passed them all out on the road, they were running, that I realized I’d goofed up and the brunch was next weekend. 

No worries, I just parked my truck at the town hall and set up a coffee aid station for when they came in.  Then mounted up on Fuji-san and rode the river trail end-to-end for a quick 25ish mile. 

Gotta keep showing up and make lemons from lemonade.

Every day is an opportunity. 

I’ll see you out there.  

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